Controversial Spotify Podcaster Joe Rogan said that he never had former President Donald Trump on his show because he’s not a supporter and isn’t “interested in helping him.”

Rogan, who has been targeted by liberals for daring to question vaccination requirements and other panic-induced pandemic related policies, said he refused to have Trump on “The Joe Rogan Experience.” 

“I’m not a Trump supporter in any way, shape or form. I’ve had the opportunity to have him on my show more than once — I’ve said no, every time. I don’t want to help him. I’m not interested in helping him,” he told podcast host Lex Fridman on Monday. 

“The Trump era is also going to be one of the weirder times. When people look back historically about the division in this country, he’s such a polarizing figure that so many people felt like they could abandon their own ethics and morals and principles just to attack him and anybody who supports him because he is an existential threat to democracy itself,” Rogan explained.

Fridman posited that Trump wasn’t the cause of the political division of the country, but a “symptom” of an underlying issue that existed prior to his presidency. Rogan believes that Trump will run in the 2024 Presidential Election.

“Well, he’s running against a dead man, you know?” Rogan said. “I mean, Biden shakes hands with people that aren’t even there when he gets off stage. I think he’s seeing ghosts.”

He explained that Biden was “just rambling” during a recent appearance on “Jimmy Kimmel Live,” and said that the behavior wouldn’t be tolerated if he was conservative. 

“If he was anyone else, if he was a Republican, if that was Donald Trump doing that, every f***ing talk show would be screaming for him to be off the air,” Rogan remarked. 

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